Perhaps it should be mentioned that all the three Chinese students passed CAEL while they were studying in IC30 class. Based on their CAEL scores, Ivan was placed in 1300 credit English class while Maggie and Dinny in 1500. However, Ivan and Maggie took the test twice while Dinny took it once and got a score that she was satisfied with. Dinny did not actually score a mark high enough to make her into 1500 class, but as she scored 570 in TOEFL, only 10 marks short for being a regular Carleton student, she was allowed to be in 1500. Dinny claimed that she did not study very hard at TOEFL before she took it in China, but her previous learning experience of grammar made it easy for her. Ivan and Maggie expressed the same belief in TOEFL as a test of grammar knowledge and good preparation can lead to high scores and CAEL as a test of ability to use English, especially in academia. Ivan also claimed that he was too lazy to spend time on the preparation for TOEFL, and Maggie talked about TOEFL and CAEL as follows,