Just the self- esteem thing, one of the things that I’ve just noticed is kids don’t like to be singled out and they can be, oh if I’m going on a negative tangent like if I’m giving them a growling and they are getting singled out you know they just become withdrawn and then indulge in misbehaviour like calling out, defiance, refusal to work so on and so forth. I also think it depends on who the kids are of course as some kids who are more on to it type of kids will take everything on board and then they’ll make the change.