She became a student of a private foreign language university where they have classes A to Z with 60 students in each class for the English major alone. By the time she finished her 2nd year prior to studying abroad, she has taken courses in conversation, grammar, literature, and so on, but she soon realized that the conversation classes, which the university offered a few times a week, was not enough to improve her speaking skills. She says, “To tell the truth, as I did not have chances to talk in English, I did not even realize that my speaking was so poor until I came here.” Since it is common for the students of that university to be on exchange programs for a year or so, she applied and came to Carleton with 8 other students to attend the ESL to improve her speaking skills.