At the university, where everyone judged each other’s English by fluency, she was shocked because her perfect grammatical knowledge did not mean anything. She says, “If grammar is just grammar, that’s really a waste.” She emphasizes, “They should teach how to use English, not English.” Her belief was confirmed by the content-based classes at Carleton; “I’m learning how to use English here.” Chie believes that grammar should be introduced with its use. To my question, “Do you teach grammar if you were a teacher?” she answered,